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March 02, 2005 Chat with Dr. Cirangle at ObesityHelp.com

<Moderator> Welcome to tonight's chat with Dr. Cirangle . Chat starts at 8pm PST/11pm EST. Please type out your questions and hit enter will see them and present them to Dr. Cirangle at the time of chat in the order we receive them. Thank you! <Moderator> Welcome Dr. Cirangle Please let us know when your ready to begin

<Dr. Cirangle> Hello everyone! Ready.

<winsmom> how long does one need to be smoke free before getting the surgery?

<Dr. Cirangle> 4-6 weeks

<CC> I am still Pre Op waiting on insurance approval. Would it be ok to start the liquid diet now even though I have not had the surgery yet?

<Dr. Cirangle> Yes, it is very reasonable to attempt to lose weight prior to surgery by doing a diet but if it's a liquid fast, it may need to be monitored by either your surgeon or primary care physician.

<Kimberly> Hello Dr. Cirangle I am looking to have the lap band but have been reading more about rny and thinking this is the surgery for me. How does a surgeon determine which surgery is best for a patient or does he let them patient decide?

<Dr. Cirangle> Kimberly, it's a combination of explaining the different procedures, doing the research you need to decide which is best for you and deciding together with your surgeon what is appropriate. For instance, if your BMI is 55, you perhaps should realize that it is less likely to lose the weight that you expect with the LapBand versus the RouxenY Gastric Bypass or Duodenal Switch or even the Vertical Gastrectomy for that matter.

<Shawna> Currently 8.5 mths out of RNY and have lost 145 lbs. Starting weight was 390 and current wt 245. I never had blood pressure issues until after surgery. My blood pressure was always normal but everytime I go to the doctor it's high. I had the nurse at work take it today and it was 144 over 90. This from someone who before surgery consistently ran 120 over 70 or so. My surgeon said to make sure we keep an eye on it....is this normal for this issue to only arise after I have lost 145 lbs.

<Dr. Cirangle> Congratulations on your weight loss. It is unusual for patients who have had normal blood pressure to have higher blood pressures after surgery. Are you sure you are using the same type of blood pressure cuff as you did prior to surgery. Inappropriately sized blood pressure cuffs can give falsely higher readings such as regular or smaller cuffs. You need to get measured with a large cuff and see what it is. Also if it is high, you may need to see your PCP or cardiologist to double check it several times to see if it's a fluke or not.

<Alana> I would really like to have surgery but am terrified of the risks. What can you tell me about the surgery that will ease my fears?

<Dr. Cirangle> Alana, each patient goes through what you are feeling although to different degrees. Remember why you are doing surgery. If it's for cosmetic reasons then you should think it over. If it's for true medical reasons, remember high blood pressure gives you strokes, heart attacks, diabetes causes blindness, kidney failure, poor wound healing, chronic leg wounds, insulin shots, amputations; sleep apnea causes death by hypoxia while you sleep and causes heart problems, gives you higher risk of blood clots causing heart attacks, degenerative joint disease cripples you. All these things also should terrify you and leads to early death. Remember, the key thing about surgery is trust in a GOOD surgeon. If you don't have that, find someone whom you will trust to a significant degree. If they are good, since complications do happen, they will know how to treat you. If they have very little experience, know how to do only one type of operation, doesn't have a comprehensive program with good support and follow-up, those risks you worry about will be more likely to occur and be a problem.

<juju> can you still have reconstructive surgery if you still weigh over 200lbs, I have lost 140lbs already and it seems my weight loss has slowed down tremendously so I wanted to know if I should continue with plastic surgeon

<Dr. Cirangle> Juju, I tell my patients that it's probably best to weight until they reach their goal weight since if you lose another 50 pounds after you do plastic surgery (I presume that's what you mean by reconstructive surgery-tummy tuck, LBL, abdominoplasty etc), you may still have more loose skin that you would regret waiting.

<Will> I am 6 mos post op from having a lapband placed. I have not had a fill yet. I am finding that my appetite is growing. My current surgeon does not believe that I should have a fill this soon. Is this common to not have a fill at 6 mos out?

<Dr. Cirangle> Will, if you are losing 8-10 pounds a month with your current diet and exercise and vitamin program and you are comfortable with it, you do not need a fill. However, if you are not losing weight, feeling less restricted, hungry, eating more often despite good meals and exercise and doing all the right things, you probably need a fill. I've had patients go a whole year without a fill and lose 100 or more pounds with my program.

<Rene> Should we ever be concerned about our bodies rejecting any portion of the lapband or staples that are associated with the rny?

<Dr. Cirangle> Rene, anything can happen but it is very unlikely for either of those things to occur. The LapBand is silicone and the staples are titanium.

<angela coplen> why are you told not to eat and drink together?

<Dr. Cirangle> There is no room in your stomach to do both. You would vomit and or stretch your stomach pouch or cause a LapBand slippage/gastric prolapse.

<Monique> Dr. what happens to the old part of the stomach once is it cut off from the new pouch? Does it atrophy or become diseased in anyway?

<Dr. Cirangle> Monique, the upper small stomach is separated from the lower stomach but all the blood supply to all parts of the stomach are still left in place so it just sits there empty. Disease is a different issue. You can never see the bypassed stomach. Many of my patients need studies of the entire stomach prior to surgery to make sure there is nothing hidden from view. You can get ulcers in the bypassed stomach that would not be easily seen any longer after the RNY without surgery.

<pb> what happens in the long run if you do not take all your proteins and vitamins

<Dr. Cirangle> You will get very ill and possibly suffer from severe malnutrition, suffer heart failure and potentially die.

<Sherrie> I have a Lap Band and just had my first fill yesterday of 2.8, I do not feel much restriction, does it take a few days to kick in or should I feel it right away

<Dr. Cirangle> Sherrie, if the fill is enough, you usually can notice it right away. It depends on your Band size, your stomach thickness, etc.

<Pam> I have been told that the majority of patients (RNY) become cold-natured after the surgery. I am extremely hot-natured, so this would be desirable to me! Is this true and , if so, what causes it?

<Dr. Cirangle> Pam, I don't know what you are referring to. All of my patients are energetic, social and exercising. Sounds hot to me.

<Moderator> last question goes too....

<Mrs. Honey> hey doc.. got a quick question for ya. I am 15 months post op and, is it safe for me now if i became pregnant, any harm to me or the baby from having wls? thanks for your time.

<Dr. Cirangle> Mrs. Honey, did you see People Magazine. Carnie Wilson wasn't gaining weight without a reason after her Gastric Bypass. She is pregnant! Once your weight is stable, your labs checked for any malnutrition issues, and your doctor ok's it, you can be pregnant. I usually tell patients after 18-24 months after surgery.

<Moderator> Thank you Dr. Cirangle excellent chat tonight, Thank you all for coming have a good night.

<Dr. Cirangle> I enjoyed the chat everyone. Good night.

<Moderator> Dr. Cirangle of Laparoscopic Associates of San Francisco Website: http://www.lapsf.com/ Phone: 415-561-1310 Fax: 415-561-1713 E-mail: WeightLoss@lapsf.com

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